Hi all,

Just spent an afternoon at the library and hoping your group will be able to assist me in my "clue search". The lamp has carmel slag glass and the base has a mark underneath the base. The Mark "is an orb atop a cross (almost an angst designed cross). Inside the orb is the number 8 with a straight line through it. The number 8 could be two more connected orbs. The lamp itself is nothing remarkable after searching on the web for several days, wow, are there some beautiful lamps out there, or what? ...beautiful!
My mom bought this lamp along with another slag style lamp at an antiques store in the Kansas City area when we were visiting in about 1962.
The patina on the lamp base is "gold" it has tulips and waves on the base. The shade has ribbons, garland, fleur de lis and crosses on the metal parts.
Any ideas or suggestions on how I should track down the maker's mark? I would really appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for any and all research ideas you might recommend.
Thanks, kay

Welcome to the forum Kay,

I do not recognize the mark from you description. Perhaps you could post an image of the lamp and mark. It always is easier to work with an visual.

Hi Fred,

Thank you for the nice welcome. I will try and scan it in when my son is home in the next day or two with his help. Appreciate the help.
Kay

Dear All,

Attached are the images for the lamp. My interest is in the maker's mark. Any help or recognition is appreciated.
Thanks, kay

Hello kayonlibby,
I too welcome you to the forums and since you were able to scan some pictures of the lamp I am almost positive the the stamp is one of the Roy croft marks with the 8 in the circle.
However, I could be wrong Though I do think Hubbard spread out in his work of A&C pieces,
if I am correct in the logo I am puzzled in regard to the 8 number.

Respectfully,

Ralph Jones

Hi Ralph,

Thank you for the welcome. I was wondering, too, if Hubbard/Roycroft had any other marks, besides his well known orb/cross. Also, the tulips on the base are fleur de lys.....lots of Christian symbols with the lamp....the x's or crosses along the shade metal pieces. I'd even wondered if there had been an order of monks that made lamps during this period. I really enjoy this website, now that I've discovered it. I know the neighborhoods in Oklahoma City that have "Sears" homes in them and think it would be fun to go down to the courthouse and do some history on the areas. Thanks for your help. Kay

Your lamp was not made by the Roycrofters. There is good documentation of the items they produced and cast slag lamps in the style of your lamp were certainly not one of them. I am not familiar with the marks on your lamp. I suspect it may take some time and further research to identify the manufacturer of your lamp base and shade.

Sometimes close examination around the inside rim of the shade frame may show the mark of a maker as well it is possible that this could help us.

The condition of the underside and the overall condition of your lamp may give clues that it could be a modern reproduction of a period lamp.

Hi Fred,

I live in Oklahoma City and have not had power for the last couple of days. It just came back up and who knows?? days, hours, minutes.

Do you have any recommedations on how to begin the search? Do I start with metal makers or lamp makers? I believe the lamp is "authentic" as my mom did purchase it in about 1962 at an antiques store near K.C. ( a very reputable one, that my aunt in K.C. frequented) She also purchased another one at the same time....she had to think about buying both of them. It was a lot of money back then. In fact, she came home (OKC) with this one, and called my aunt back in K.C. and asked her to go back and get the other one and she would send her the $$$. The other one is not marked from what I can tell.

I enjoy research, I just don't really know how to start. I hope the power stays on for a few days at least.

Thanks for your help.

kay

One question I might ask....is I've never taken the slag pieces out....too scared of damaging the lamp....is that what I need to do to check the rim more carefully. Also, I did have it rewired about a year, ago. This has always been a working lamp, it grew up with three kids during my childhood and was used. I've always used it but attempt to keep it in a "safer" place with my children and pets. It was still the original wiring and had the "funny" prongs on the end and did it for safety...still worked just concerned since we do use it.

kay

I don't suggest that you remove the slag lamp. Some shades have a mark along the inside rim of the shade and can be read by turning the shade over and searching. The mark is sometimes placed at the inside top near the finial.

I have the same exact mark on the bottom of a lamp which is very similair to the one shown. I have been looking for the maker for years. I can not find any information. My lamp was purchased at an estate sale near Rochester, New York back in the late 1960's. If you have any information, I would love to hear from you. I will share any information I find. Thanks

Good Morning Friends,
One thing is for sure and that is that I learned something today about my passion of finding out about history and the locations of different designs and the makers of the same.

As a general rule my research is in things made of wood but, this one post has intrigued me to the point that I am going to have to locate a book of lamps and their makers.

This has been a most intriguing one for me and I will follow it closely to see if a maker's mark can be found.

Respectfully,